Design craft: My conversation with Heyo

I sat down with Lexi, Peter, and Mike from the Contrast Podcast by Heyo. Their show is for creatives from all walks of life. The vibe is casual, conversational.

We covered a lot in an hour and a half. Design methodology, why spacing decisions matter more than people realize, practical accessibility, the critique process, what happens when designers stop learning, how physical training connects to creative work.

It's one of those conversations where you start with interface design and end up talking about intentionality in everything. Long-form, no script.

Check it out: